Okay, well, there we go. That's good, we're gon na get for right now, some kind of annoying buzzing over here by the left door. Apparently, this thing has quite a shimmy to it, so we'll go and see if we can tell just by the seat of our pants, perhaps what's happening, i didn't look. I think this is four-wheel drive get around on the big road.

I was thinking if it is four wheel drive. I see these siennas come in sometimes with the rear u-joints seized up in them and they can have a quite a hitch in their giddy up, oh yeah. Now we feel it baby, pretty high frequency vibration kind of feel it rumbling underneath it's hard to explain in the vehicle without having something to display what i'm sensing, but it doesn't feel like tire balance to me. It seems to be a higher frequency than tire balance.

It does almost feel like a drive shaft, making her up there a little bit faster speeds. It's not really in the steering wheel per se. I mean i do feel some vibration in the steering wheel. You can see the steering wheel oscillating.

However, i think we have a couple things i think we have some front tires that are out of balance, but i am a little suspicious of this drive shaft also. So this is kind of interesting. I just uh didn't have the camera on by hung louie back into town here and was accelerating, as i was coming into town at maybe 10 15 miles an hour, making a left turn and there was some pretty harsh, thumping uh, underneath the vehicle uh in the Middle uh, perhaps so perhaps we will hang it right here on old carrington, then we'll hang a louie onto the north maple and we'll see if it makes the same sound. It was like a almost like if the u-joint was seized up and the drive shaft was bouncing in the carrier.

Bearing uh would be my guess. Let's see, if it does it here, i don't know if it's not the same kind of turn. Oh there. It goes.

You hear that, hopefully you guys heard that so it's kind of odd i'll, tell you what it sounds like it's whacking right underneath the car and the only thing moving at that speed is, is the drive check for not going that fast? Don't hear it again. That's quite interesting: let's see if it does it after we take off just straight here, perhaps nope. This is all very interesting. It has a newer drive shaft in it.

This thing is not that old, not to the point like it's not even rusty folks. So it's very interesting i mean somebody's put a little spray paint on it, but overall i mean it appears to be like new, so uh. What can you do here? Erico? I didn't notice a little something. Let me show you first before we get too hot wild here.

I did notice right here on this center joint and see. If i get you a little closer here, you know the furnace is on and it's making that weird noise up there in that door, but you can hear so right in that joint. This is like a cv. Style joint sounds like they didn't put any it's like.

There's no grease in there. I don't know if that is this thing season up and we're driving it and you know throwing it out of it. You know how to sink. It's kind of odd that this is, you know, so cranky i've been inclined to unhook it from there uh.

Prior to that, though, i think what we need to do is we need to call the customer. Oh, these driveshafts are supposed to be in phase or not, but it's not you know the u-joints aren't lined up with each other um. I think the first thing we need to do is call a customer and ask when, when this was replaced, you know, was this drive shaft replaced in effort to fix this vibration or what um or is this something that has you know, come along? So let me let me get a hold of him and uh do a little investigate here folks, before we get too deep all right, so i just got off the phone with a fella uh. Evidently i put the drive shaft in it about a year ago.

So i looked it up and i'll be dying, he's right, so we put the drive shaft in it uh and i believe uh. He said because the u-joints and stuff were junk in here for some reason, maybe a carrier-bearing uh. I didn't look through my notes to see why, but we had replaced the drive, champions and everything's been great up until the last couple weeks and he says the more you drive it the worse. It gets like it warms up so to speak.

So i'm wondering i'm. I'm really wondering if you know if there's something binding in here, i think what we can do is we can unhook the drive shaft here i don't know, i don't know if we'll see anything inside this cv joint once you take it off here, because it should. I think it's encapsulated, but then we can at least take the drive shaft out and drive it now. I did explain to him.

I think, there's tire vibration, wheel, balance plus whatever's going on back here. He agreed to that. He thinks that you know his tires are out of balance, but this is something new, so i say we grab some tools. We unhook the shaft here have a look that don't sound right baby, what the heck buzzes in that mirror, but boy, that's annoying all right.

As soon as we get the shaft out of here, i'll put the car back back in park, we'll shut it off, so we don't listen to that wrong way. Fella. This looks i mean the grease. That's on these almost looks like it has metal in it.

I think these were loctited titan, i mean it smells greasy, but they look sparkly when i'm taking them out. I don't believe they have never seas on them. There we go. Oh it does pop the cap loose.

Oh boy, she's drier than a popcorn fart inside. There look at all the rust and crap coming out of the out of that joint she's smoked baby. I think somebody forgot to do their job see. If let me get a light, i got ta shut that key off hold on folks.

That's enough to make a man go crazy, oh yeah! Now this is definitely screwed here. This joint, i mean, let's have a little bit under here, so you see how dried up she is in there. We've got lots of rust. I don't know who makes the driveshafts or nap.

I think this is dormant to be honest with you. I think it's rebox dorman we'll find out for sure, but i'm pretty sure that's who it is, but yeah obviously uh lack of grease or maybe the improper grease. But you can tell something's wrong with a lot of rust and dust and dirt and stuff coming out of that uh part of the cb joint there. That's too bad, that's too bad fella yeah, because she's full of it.

She is full of it. Gosh dang it! Well, i guess what we can do besides. Looking like a fool now um, i know who makes this if they're available, i don't think it was. I was looking on the way out.

It didn't look too promising when i looked up on his bill to see when we got it. I think it was a dormant number, but i'm gon na go double check. Some of this stuff we're gon na find out what we can do. I think at the very least, the car can still be driven right now in two-wheel peel, and we can also drive it and verify that that that vibration is gone, and indeed we're only left with the tire vibration what's up.

Miss though you're looking like a fox today by the way, thanks for coming to see us miss though oh it's getting deep folks, oh real, deep uh, the good news is, if there's good news to it, uh dorman is off the hook, so i had to make Some calls uh the original knapper number that i ordered was this 931 502. That was the napa og number. Now that was the company that was making these for napper is the apple. They just called napa drive shaft snap uh, re-man cb, shafts uh.

I don't know who the manufacturer is or where they're at, however uh to get the new one from napa: they don't they don't even have it, they don't have it can't get it boom. You're screwed have a nice stay, fella um, but i look when i looked up the 931 502 from napper. They said discontinued reorder as a 600 7124, which is napa oe solutions, aka dorman, which is this 936 721 number so uh. I called my guy.

A doorman got an inside guy. I called him great dude. This guy goes up to bat for dorman, even if their products suck, sometimes he takes care of it. So i called them told them what the deal is.

I told them. This is not a doorman. This is whoever napa's original vendor was, however, because this one is junk. Dorman is their new supplier.

They have to take care of this company's garbage, it's kind of weird how that works right, because they're napa's new supplier. So, if there's a problem with this one here which had a limited, limited lifetime, warranty they're now the new supplier of drive shafts doorman's, going to take care of it. However, they don't have any, but the guy there doing me a solid he's, pushing it through he's he's calling this guy, who makes a driveshaft saying hey, we need one of these for sma, get her done so they're going to get her done. I'm going to take one of the cars up in the air, i'm going to balance the tires on it, we're going to leave this out because the vehicle could be driven, because i imagine it's going to be several weeks before we get this.

Even if he's you know pushing it through for us we're going to save all the jiggly bits and figure out the logistics of how i'm getting paid later, not so concerned about that. But let's balance the tires, then we're going to take this thing for shake and technically it shouldn't shake in theory, so so we'll take and get these bolted back on folks they all balance up. None of them were drastically out like an ounce at the most and uh i'll. Just say that to say this, these are aftermarket wheels.

So these are what they call multi-fit wheel, multiple bolt patterns, gigantic hub hole, so they technically, this isn't correct. So these are going to be stud, piloted they're, going to be piloted on just the wheel studs. Now this car oem and every other car we work on is hub piloted the wheel is piloted to the hub and that's quite a bit more secure than having all the weight just on the wheel studs once we tighten it up with that being said, i'll keep Want to keep saying that, but when we balance these, we balance them off the hub. Now i could use a pin plate and go off the studs and the hub it gets messy.

I don't want to say it gets messy, but technically this should have uh spacer rings. That goes in here. That takes up the distance and yada yada most people in our climate with aftermarket steel wheels, you just slap these babies on and call it a day. But, however, don't ever expect to get a perfect balance hub, piloting them and then sticking them on the car and having them mounted by the wheel studs.

You would think it would all be eccentric. I don't know if that's the right word, but it's not and the other problem here is multiple style wheel nuts, so you've got your classic shank and washer style nut for an aluminium wheel. You've got the et style wheel, nuts, you got flange style nuts, and then you have. What should be on here is what is referred to as an acorn nut or a conical style nut.

I think we call them conical so they're, usually it's your classic wheel. Nut looks like an acorn has a taper either 45 or 60 degrees. So technically these shouldn't be going on here. This is a shank and flange style where it would pilot uh.

The uh nut like this into the female hole of the wheel and then tighten up against the face of the washer. Now these do have a slight taper. Is it 45 or 60 degrees? This guy doesn't know, but i do know that's what this car came in. With so i assume this van originally has aluminium wheels, so therefore, we cannot really think that we've got a proper balance, because these are not going to pilot correctly.

I don't think they're going to come flying off, but i don't think they're going to be smooth as butter. Let's take this car fish shimmy okay plan b folks, i just uh douched it out a little bit the parts washer i'm gon na take yeah. The races are pretty chowdered up and i'm gon na take a packet full of grease uh, the guys the guy wants to use that i i'm slightly embarrassed. I'll be honest.

I have used a lot of vehicles and you know well, of course you get a lot of all-wheel drive vehicles, but i've pulled the rear, drive shaft on a lot of vehicles to diagnose vibrations. Things like that, i can't say: i've never had one not move. I've had a host of lights come on, you know, vsa lights, track lights, all wheel, drive lights stuff like this to be expected, but the red one not move. I guess oh well, first for everything.

Of course, the dash on this thing lit up like a christmas tree, so they tried to move it so, but i'm just gon na pack, this full of grease the best we can without completely disassembling it at least make it usable and quiet we'll stuff it back. In there, while we wait for the new one, i guess i should have went up there and looked to see how the power transfer unit comes off the side of the transmission before i went ahead and assumed. But yes, without this drive shaft, it won't move. It's uh, you know hate to overstate the obvious at this point, but we could have figured that out by looking at it now.

These are indexed just for the record, so these will only go on one way: um if you're worried about uh having it out of time or out of balance. Of course, it was nice for this drive shaft somebody had painted for us, but the bolt hole bolt pattern here is only a one-way pattern. So if you didn't mark it before you unhooked it don't sweat it i'm going to stick a couple bolts here in the back round two: will it move this time? Hey, look at that we're moving it ding-dong! Everything is so loud what fixed so cruising at 60 or whatever wheels smooth the car feels smooth. I mean.

Obviously we can't leave it like this, but at least we know what the problem is now and that folks is that uh. Of course, i can't continue on this video and i can give you a hundred percent verification, get the new one, all that, but i'm gon na end it here, because i know we're gon na fix it. We just kind of proved that wish i had a way to show you a vibration other than a hula dancer girl on the dash. I suppose i could get one of those apps there on my phone at show vibration, but at some point we got ta trust.

Each other you - and i just trust me - it was vibrating. Now it's not they're not near as bad enough to prove the point. Okay, uh! So heed the warning about the wheels. If you're gon na use aftermarket wheels, get the appropriate ones, get the appropriate hub, spacers and get the appropriate wheel.

Nuts um there's the most minute amount of wheel. Vibration from the tires tires are pretty dry rod of the ones that are on it and then, of course, you know all the other problems i mentioned about balancing them versus how they bolt on the car. Whatever skip that point and go right to the point of uh the drive shaft and how messy that can be when a manufacturer supplier to your wholesaler uh, you know in this case napa, so whoever made the drive shaft originally doesn't make it anymore. It's been superseded to this new number and now that new number happens to be dormant and now dorman's got to come in and clean up somebody else's mess for a change, so thankfully they're able to do that.

Unfortunately, you know the supply chain of parts. At this point in time, in the year 2022 in the month of january, the supply chain sucks, and it has for a couple years now until this, because it's rona uh, hopefully that's over someday blah blah blah but um. It's nice of them to take care of us like this, and hopefully we'll have one in a couple. Two three weeks in the meantime, they're gon na drive the car and, in the meantime, you're gon na drive yourself in your little car down there.

In that comment, sections the questions, the comments, the concerns put them down. There put your experiences with the parts, so i always love reading those ones and just remember viewers. If i can do it, you can do it thanks for watching, hey.