In this video we see the classic example of crappy aftermarket new parts. This customer installed a few new EVAP parts on his Ford Ranger only to find out they are junk. Oh well πŸ€·πŸ½β€β™‚οΈ
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Hey there viewers and welcome back to the self made auto channel set inside the 1998 ford ranger. It's got a stick shift here on the floor, 249 or 0.96 are on the clock, uh. Evidently the money light is on. It is, as he says, so we got to bring it in and check that out.

Uh, it's the step side, it ain't. The splash pam anderson edition is that who that wasn't, baywatch pamela anderson. She drove a ford, ranger splash up anyhow enough about that. Let's get it in see why the lights on uh, apparently he threw some parts at it, sounds like he threw some evap parts out and it still is broke so uh.

I haven't seen a 1998 ford ranger since about about 1999, so let's uh try our best at it. Here we can do okay, so we have uh your classic p1000 uh. So that's gon na be common on a ford for the engine, light being reset and the monitors aren't done and then uh evap control, vent valve control circuit malfunction so sounds like we're having a problem with the canister vent valve. So it shouldn't be too hard sounds like it's a circuit problem, so you know blown fuse, broken wire.

Bad computer would be my first assumption and from the sounds of it this sounds like he was combating evap code. So i don't know what we have for a data here. Let's just see if there is a vent okay, so we have cancer event, status, no fault, it is off currently and then it appears to be that it can be duty, cycled controlled, which is interesting. Let's just see if we have any bi-directional controls and if we do we'll go, find the little guy, so a vapor management valve.

That's not what we're. After that's like your purge, solenoid um, we want the vent valve. That's in a percentage which is interesting, uh we're going to type in vent, we'll look at that data and we'll just see what kind of bi-directional we have here. So we'll increase it.

Okay, so it looks like we can okay yeah, then it goes right to straight to on so that's interesting. It does look like we can control it. It's interesting, though, if it really is sending power and stuff there that it's not seeing a fault on that circuit. Um, i don't know how accurate ford was in these older systems, but it looks like we could do some stuff.

So, let's get after it before we go underneath. We should have a look at a diagram here, and here is the cancer vent solenoid. So just you know it's pretty simple: two wires. It looks like we're.

Gon na have power on or should have power on a light blue with orange wire, and then the purple with white should be the control that comes out on number. Eight number eight goes over to number eight, which here goes to number eight, which goes over here to pin 67 evap vent, so that is the control, so purple and white is the control and then, whatever other color, that other one was the blue. With orange light. Blue with orange, that's our power wire we're going to check the fuse, probably not because it feeds the hegos, and i would assume we would have some ego codes.
Your oxygen sensor codes. Let me see where that power wire goes. It goes down here to the splice s109 right there and then, like i said it feeds the ego and this ego and that ego or no yeah feeds action, sensors and egr valve vacuum regulator and then go some other places too. This thing goes all over the place comes up here, does some stuff in the so uh it doesn't mean you know we can't have a broke wire, but it means it's likely that fuse is not blown so we're not going to bother checking that.

Let's get the carp in here, find this vent valve and see what in the thunder is going on all right. Let's see, oh she's slimy under here got the coat of the film. It looks like i think, that's the charcoal canister back here and i think that's the vet solenoid up there, which looks relatively new and rust-free yeah because that's the filter for it all right, that's the plug-in for it right there and heads on the net. So that's the plugger um.

I wonder i wonder if this thing comes down. Yeah, probably i'll, not be meddling with things that i'll not be meddling in. Let's get your classic hanger um get some threaded rod action. I tell you what i'm gon na set you fellas down.

Let's see if i can't unplug that that's the solenoid itself looks new um, but remember folks, there's uh three kinds of parts: good parts, bad parts and new parts, just because it's new doesn't mean it's good. These rapid ranges are tiny little cars, so i don't have a great spot to put you where i can still do my job so you're going to be over there we'll give you the play by play the best we can so i'm going to try to reach This little fella try to feel the lock tab, but i don't get her unplugged. Oh look at that. That was pretty easy.

Okay, let's get her down here, looks like we have see what survey says here: purple with a white stripe and then blue with a orange or whatever it is there. So let's go get some kind of tool and see if we have power and wash my patties off here, a little bit so the power that feeds the fuse that feeds. This thing comes from the pcm relay which we have the key on currently, so we should have power here on this wire and we do so we have. I don't know if you guys can see, can't see you, but we do have power here.

So that's good! Okay, i guess we need a different test light now to see if we have control so very gingerly front probe here being careful not to spread the pins, we have a 194 bulb right there, which i'll hold right here and then, hopefully you guys can see it. We're gon na use a scan tool, we're gon na turn. This thing on 100 test aborted, not supported. It says what the heck.

Let me back back out here. Didn't we just do this test here we go again. I'm gon na try to turn it on it's on at 100 percent. Oh well, look at that! Well, that's fun! So that, what's that tell us that tells us that we have sufficient power and ground back here to make this function.
My uh, my chasing a code that says it's a circuit code and we never looked in service data. I don't feel like a real ding dong here. Let's see, i thought it said it was a circuit code, but i should have looked in service data because that circuit is intact. It does not mean that the um 1451..

Let me just look it up on service data to make sure it is a circuit code. Uh, the other part of the circuit is the canister vent valve which we haven't plugged back in yet. But let me just double check real quick, like little bunny, okay, so 1451. According to ford service data indicates that self-deck detected a canister vent valve solenoid circuit to failure.

So we are good. It is a circuit code, so we can keep calm and carry on sometimes the interpretation on the altel or any scan tool for that matter. How it interprets the code being read especially specific, you know, starting with the one sometimes can be interpreted incorrectly, so it was my fault for assuming but um. Anyhow, let's uh, let's just see if our solenoid is any good, uh we'd, even heck we're here right service say we do have a resistance value 48 to 65 ohms, but let's uh plug it in and see.

If we hear it click any clack, don't talk back. Okay, so i left it in the on position. Oddly enough under the canister vent valve status, it still says that there is no fault in the circuit, even though it's completely open. So we know that data pit is garbage.

We know that we have power and ground here adequate enough to turn on a vent valve and then see if i can't reach up yeah. You know what how about this, though, how about we just wiggle that baby right out of there and get it right down here in our hands there? She is and then we'll plug it in down here, where everybody can see it ready, be quiet. I don't hear any clicking so we're going to have to give her a little tube. Okay, i'll show you how you do that it's pretty easy! It has enough fluid film on it.

It should be sterile because fluid film's a sterilizer, but give it a wipe with a dirty rag anyways before you blow on it now, technically we shouldn't be able to blow through this right now. We should be able to blow through this right now. That's what i meant to say apply power to it. It closes it ding down wow, look at that.

We should still have power and ground running to it, and the pins felt good, so we're going to back probe it just to make sure oop. So we have power and ground going to it, as i said in the beginning, just because it's new doesn't mean it's good, so that was easy. Didn't it give us a gave us a homage spec on it, which i think was something gosh. I can't remember anything lately: let's see, i think it was probably somewhere between 40 and 50 would make sense, and we are at i'm assuming all we're at oh, so we are at infinite resistance over the limits of the tool, because our tool works, we're auto, ranging So yeah this thing's junk no sense of going any further easy, peasy video, let's flush, this toilet so pop quiz.
What's the problem with putting a new one on and uh clearing the codes and sticking it outside? Oh, that's a good question. Mister. What is the problem with that? Well, the problem is, is working for the gp. Remember, that's the general public uh you put that on and now it can run through a evap self-test.

You know it can close the cancer vet velvet and turn their vapor management valve or the purge valve on, and it can pull the vacuum on the tank see if we have a leak. So, potentially you could fix this and have other evap problems, so you can handle that one two ways. If you're a shop you can put that on smoke test it look at the you know. Does the purge valve work? You can actuate the purge valve, see if it works.

You can seal this off, do a smoke test on it see if you have no leaks and then you know check the fuel tank pressure sensor to make sure it's at you know the two and a half volts on a four to atmospheric pressure, and then you Know assume that once it runs itself test, it's going to be good or plan b. Explain to your customer that this is a problem, the problem that is currently happening. We can put the vent valve on it. Let you drive it for you, know a few days and see if there's any other problems, so those are two different ways you can handle it.

You have to use your noodle because sometimes even if a customer agrees and says yeah, let me just drive it all of a sudden when the money light comes on for a gross evap leak or small evap leak or whatever it is. That's. You know gon na come up or potentially could come up. They typically all of a sudden, have amnesia and forgot completely everything else.

You told them so document it sign it ship it and by no means am i insinuating that that's the way this particular customer is. I have no idea, i'm just saying dealing with the gp in the shop cya baby cover your hiney guy said fix it. I called down got one with the bear on it. Yeah i cleaned the nap or the 2282 590 made right here in the us of a canister vent valve.

You can blow through this one. Well, i heard it click hear it. That's all i got i'll plug it back into the box. I'm gon na go shut.

It off i'm gon na plug it in and then we'll just do a couple, quick preliminary things here then flush it. He did say he put a new filler neck on it because it was all rusty, put a canister and that valve and stuff on it and then said to hack with it we're done so we have that little fella on there now we're gon na back out. We're gon na go back into the vent valve test, but we're going to pull up a few more data pits. I want to see if we have fuel tank pressure, so we'll do fuel and then we want to find tank pressure take voltage and then we also want the canister vent valve we're going to type in vent.
We're going to pick them out, which i think yeah. I've already got them picked there fuel tank pressure, okay. So then we want to come in here and right now, we're close to two and a half volts, so we're at negative point: one zero, which this is how it's translating to atmosphere. There's no, the vent is open, the system's open.

What we wan na do is we want to seal it off and we would like to see an increase in pressure here over time. Um, it's only it's 76 degrees in the shop. I don't know how volatile its fuel is right now, if it's gon na start building pressure, but typically the fuel tank is hot. It's going to stand up like a gas can that you got capped off out in your shed and we'll start building pressure.

Slowly now uh we might have to take and set it out in the sun to bake it, but we've got other things that we can do i'll give this some time and what this test is going to prove. If we build pressure under its own. Naturally, we likely do not have to run any type of evap test and i think we're going to be okay, we're going to give this probably all five six minutes here: anyways! Well, that wasn't working folks, so obviously there's a leak busted out the avocado smoker got it hooked up to the vapor management valve right down here and then i think i already found a leak. So we're going to kick that on and we can see the floaty ball is flowing high and here we'll kick the hose off.

If the system is sealed, the floaty ball will float low until it goes to the bottom. Well, naturally, it takes some time to fill up the void, the open area in the gas tank. However, like i mentioned he did say he put a new filler neck on it, but i come back here and i could hear some hissing and it's this gas cap doesn't doesn't even click. It's uh.

You can probably hear it hiss in there. So you hear that hissing and it's weird because obviously the filler neck is new uh. The cap is new, but just because it's new doesn't mean it's good. This guy's gon na hate hearing from me, so the cap fits on there.

You know it's got the three male dongers, you stick it into three female doggers and then it rotates, but it doesn't, it doesn't cam, it doesn't lock down it just see. I can hold it down and then ready. I can't hear it, but if i hold it down, it will actually start building pressure. Yeah you guys there we go so we can get this out of there.

So uh, i'm gon na wait for a nap or bring us up a new cap uh. I think this guy got a whole bunch of brand new junk parts from the sounds of it or from the looks of it from the evidence collected, and this is a perfectly good example of cya - cover your butt uh. As we've learned um, you know we fixed event valve which that was the code, but you know if this thing left just like i mentioned you know it's going to come back. It's going to come back with that gross leak, so we're going to make our best effort to make sure that you know we've diagnosed the entire evap system and once we once we know it can seal up, then we're going to go ahead and make sure the Purge valve works and then, if that works then technically the rest of it should work.
Providing you know the ecm does its deal. So that's it. We play the hurry up and weight gain. 703.

17. 18.. I don't know i got a bad feeling about this. I've seen some aftermarket filler necks that just don't work right because uh this looks about the same.

Am i right, my guy, let's see yeah that one feels a little different, but it doesn't really feel like it cams down hard, let's uh! Well, i guess we could tell it doesn't click, though, doesn't it say on it that it should click playing until cap clicks, quote unquote or gordon grove service engine light may be turned on it's the owner's manual. This one definitely feels different, but not great. At least this one makes a little snippy snap. This one doesn't do anything this one just this one, just flippy floppy.

So let's stick this one in there we go. Let's go see. If that one does not leak or indoor leaks, hey! Look. We don't even have the avocado smoker on and guess what she's doing she's building pressure already so we'll let it go back to atmospheric pressure.

We close the system and theoretically, if everything is tight like a tiger, it should build pressure so there that cap works. Well. You know what do you say: huh, let's turn on the avocado smoker there she goes now. We should be rapidly building pressure there.

We are that's nice, it switches from inches of water to psi. For us, that's a really cool feature. I think that smoker only goes up to uh 0.5. I believe, but we'll see we'll let her go and we'll see where the old floaty ball goes looks like she's blowing some kind of relief valve under there.

The way that things bouncing interesting so watching that ball as it pulsates i can go back by the cap, and i can hear it very similar to this. So i don't know if it's blowing off the pressure relief in the cat, but what i'm gon na do is we're just gon na turn that off i'm gon na make sure that it can maintain its pressure. I see it's losing some, but i'm wondering if it's gon na get to a spot where it plateaus and stays there without putting a lot of time in this evap system. I'm i'm curious about this uh, particularly because it has an aftermarket filler neck.

So this is where it seems to have steadied out about this 0.3 psi and uh been here for some time now to the point: i'm pretty satisfied with it. So i'm almost at the point where i just want to check it under vacuum, because that's how the system normally works is under vacuum, not under pressure, but i've never seen a cap that comes off pressure relief, wise with just using the avocado smoking. So being that it's you know has steadied out here, i'm i'm pretty satisfied with that. So we're going to open this up, let it relieve the pressure, that's quite a bit of pressure in the tank, so we can see that decay pretty quickly back to atmosphere.
The smoke machine is turned off and then, like i say when we turn it on just the natural pressure from the volatile fuel is starting to build up. So i'm pretty i'm pretty satisfied, i'm thinking. What's that new, that's fun! Oh, my gosh. Does this one work? Okay, where were we uh? I didn't erase the money light yet i need one of those.

What i wanted to do was check the purge valve. So let's see we're going to turn it on. Oh, she does not look. Sucky sucky stalled her out, but we can see we did draw it into a deep vacuum: uh, let's go sit inside and do this one more time because we're childish, okay, so it's safe to say that the purge valve opened and it's safe to say it's not Stuck open because we're not drawing any vacuum on the tank with it, commanded off! So let's bring up our ours.

We can see it instantly, pull vacuum on the tank or shut it off, but it shouldn't be able to hold vacuum because the uh vent valve is open and that's what we that's what we want. So this is what we expect to see so again, we'll shutter shutter down kion engine off. We can hop back out. I think we're all on the same page right now, we'll go to the vent valve and, like i say we should be good we're wasting time at this point, but sometimes i like to show you guys stuff more than once, let it sink in and then we Know why they duty cycle that we shut that off 100 and we start to build tank pressure, so we're good, i'm pretty sure we're good.

I think we must have been hitting the gas cap relief with the uh with the avocado smoker. So i'm pretty sure we're in good shape for the shape we're in so at this point, i think we see a why i ate ourself enough to say you know we can tell it's sealed up uh. It can hold natural vacuum uh or natural pressure uh. I don't think, there's any you know big obnoxious leaks on the system and it appears to be uh blowing off around that gas cap.

However, i'm not 100 satisfied the way that gas cap fits, but we're also dealing with an aftermarket filler net. So at this point i can document what i've done for the gp we'll put it on the bill. I'll explain it to the customer. You know we we replaced the gas cap.

Ours fits better um, we did the vent valve, which you know he's aware of, and at this point you need to run it through a drive cycle to see if the vehicle is satisfied. Uh with the test that's gon na run, i used to be able to bypass the five hour cold, soak or five hour hot soak on these fords is, you could go out and quick run the evap test, but i didn't see the option on this one. So at this point clear, the codes give it to the guy, let him drive it and if the car is happy boom, we're good. It appears that everything on the evap system works, fuel, tank pressure sensor, the purge the vent, and the system appears to be able to seal itself at least up to 0.3 psi which that's not how it works.
You know irl, it works under vacuum, so i think we're golden and why don't you be golden in that comment section the questions, the comments, the instinct, the facebook y'all know, y'all, know and just remember viewers. If i can do it, you can do it thanks for watching.

By EricO

17 thoughts on “Just because it’s new… doesn’t mean it’s good…”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Thinman says:

    Fix it, then fix it again, and maybe one more time because the new parts are defective. Welcome to Amerika.

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars postersm 71 says:

    β€œ just because it’s new does not mean it’s good” I tell my customers at all the time. I also tell them, β€œthis is why we have warranties”

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Ronald Bryant says:

    Another fine video by Sherlock Ohms.
    (to infinity and beyond) An ohms joke.

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars John Petersen says:

    A very nice overview and explanation of how an evap system works. Good to see the "avokah smokah" again.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Bruce Day says:

    Years ago an old beer drinking buddy who was a dealer mechanic and I had a conversation. He asked what oil filters I used. I said Fram which was highly rated at time. He said yes highly rated but I can keep pollution out of your lungs with a plastic bag. It stuck and I’ve been an OEM guy ever since. Upfront cost may be higher but cheaper in the long run. Aftermarket seems cheaper but the headaches outweigh the cost. They spend millions on design and then we cheep out on replacements.

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Byron Carpenter says:

    As usual
    Advance auto, or, auto zone parts
    After 50 years of being a mechanic
    Hate to say it
    Best parts are from the factory

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Greg White says:

    Had a shop replace the radiator and cap on my wife's car. Noticed the cap seemed unusually tight but the shop said it was the right one. Well, a while later I noticed the radiator was looking definitely bulged out. Shop found out the cap was not relieving pressure. Fortunately, they stepped up and replaced the whole shebang with a cap that worked for no cost to us. Guess that anymore you always have to check that the new parts are actually working the way they should.

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars plankton199 says:

    Thanks for more enjoyable time spent with you in the garage. Your videos make it seem like we are standing right there next to you. All that is missing is a few ice-cold beverages.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Craig Downey says:

    Some people just can't admit the vehicle should be replaced and instead just load up the parts cannon and hope for the best!

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars jack002tuber says:

    We had a '99 Ranger and it was awful. Engine problems, warped heads, cracked heads.

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Terry says:

    If every one could do it they wouldn’t need to bring there cars to you ,well done

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars SoulTrip Official says:

    Replaced my Mustang suspension with the cheapest parts available about 8 months ago… replacing them again this week with OEM stuff. You live and learn.

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Thirza Peevey says:

    My grandpa had one of thos ah-ooga horns in his car. I loved those little Rangers. I had two, a 90 and a 98. That is a very familiar sounding truck. I really miss them. Glad to see this one lived to fight another day.

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Brian Smith says:

    What is the obsession with the vehicle miles on all these mechanic channels? It's broke – who cares. Amaze me with your fix-it skills! P.S. you did again.

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Charles Reiche says:

    The lanolin helps keep your hands supple and soft. The rust helps with exfoliation. Your vehicles are your beauty treatment.

  16. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kevin Gray says:

    I put the same shocks on the rear of my Ranger.
    The leafs get a little saggy after a while.

  17. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Philip Brucker says:

    I don't replace any parts as a maintenance/preventative measure any more. The new parts can cause more problems than the old parts that didn't need to be replaced yet. Don't fix it if it ain't broke.

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