In this video I bring you along the process of swapping out an ignition switch in a 2001 Chevrolet Corvette that had a customer complaint of an intermittent no crank. Turns out it was a failing ignition switch giving him his troubles. -Enjoy!
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Hey there viewers and welcome back to the self made knowledge channel sitting inside the 2001 chevrolet. It's a corvette, uh, probably a five seven would be. My assumption has a very intermittent. No crank no start does some funny monkey business, and i was finally finally able to get this car to act up.
Uh customers been complaining about this for a while, of course, you know you bring it to the shop, you drive it. You know a thousand times and you know burn the tires right off and it never ever acts up. But evidently his issue is when he goes to crank it. The dash comes on and it flickers thicker checker thicker thicker flicker flicker, just like.
If the battery was dead, shut off turn it back on might start might not doesn't crank, doesn't do anything dash keeps flickering all the lights are on acting funny and then all of a sudden, bada bing bada boom it starts so it finally did it to me. A couple times in a row where i could get some, you know definitive testing. I guess if you will so i go to start it. It starts acting up like that.
Click, click, click, click, click. You hear the relays clicking down here and stuff. If you just take the end of the key and go judo chat right on the end of the key everything works. Imagine that gm with a bad ignition switch.
I did it multiple times, never got it on camera, so i can't show you you're gon na have to believe me. We got trust issues i know, but you're gon na have to trust me. Did this multiple times three, so i guess multiple times it did it to me. Each time, whack right on the end of the key problem, went away away.
We go either it's a big coincidence and i'm super wrong or it's just a magnificent switch. The lock cylinder goes right into the ignition switch on these cars, so it's pretty plausible, i'm gon na go for it and uh you're. Coming with me at least we're gon na try uh. I hate working on these cars, most people that own them are a bunch of whiny crybabies.
This guy's, not this guy's, pretty cool. He actually drives this car, so it's got a bazillion miles on it. Uh. Also i've never done.
I've never done an ignition switch on one of these and that blocks you right out 100. So what i've done is i've got the directions right from general motors uh and it says step one negative battery, all that crap uh. We got to get some of this trim off we're gon na bother you with the steps, but first center console. It says open center, constant door, pull traction control, switch release it from retaining clips blah blah blah flat.
Screwdriver do some prying, so we got to get this up and this is kind of broke, so you kind of got to hold it there. Let's see if we can't get a oh look at that monkey look set that back down um. So that's our traction. Control switch plus these cars set an inch off the ground and i'm kind of fat.
So this doesn't help so we're going to take this off and it does expose both of those nuts right down there. One connector already missing for the passenger airbag off wonder why? That's unhooked so we'll take this baby out we'll set that to the side we'll see what our next step is. I think what we'll do is we'll take off both of those nuts they've been off before a lot of a lot of marks around them, but uh. I think the car head - oh, it's, got a bazillion miles on it, 130, something so that's a lot of miles for one of these junkers low oil level. It says we can't see the miles. I think it's a buck 30 or so so way more miles than these cars typically would get. I got props to this guy for actually driving this thing. Uh they're not very valuable.
I don't know why people worship these cars so much or cars in general. I don't know if i get something i just beat the balls off it. My motto is i ain't saving it for the next guy. I've never been much of a collector of anything.
I think that's why you guys get so upset with me when you found out. I'm not a car guy, that's all right uh! I think the main thing is. We need to get this black trim off here. I don't think we need to pull this whole center console out as the directions stated.
One thing we do need to do, though: we need to get the cigarette lighter unplugged, i guess they're, not cigarette lighters anymore. Are they power accessory outlets or something? I don't call what you want back when i was a kid. They were cigarette lighters and i think back before that they were cigar lighters, so i had to yank this baby back. It doesn't look like the indicator on this thing.
It looks like it's stuck down in first gear, so chances are somebody's been here um. I have to remove the cigarette lighter or the ash tray a couple screws here, pull that baby out. Actually, if we lose one no big deal, we got a spare. Every car comes with extra parts, so we'll stick that to the side, looks like the thing doesn't retain down anymore and then we're going to get our wear a tool.
Kit find the torx bit. We need so take these two screws out and i think on the pitcher it showed another screw up over here, make sure we get all of them out the other thing working on sometimes working on 20 year old plastic really sucks a lot of these jobs. I'll refuse, just because you know you don't want to be the guy to break it and a lot of this stuff, especially gm. You know you just touch their stuff.
Everything breaks. Oh there see that thing. This has been all super glued back together. You see all the super glue and stuff behind it.
That's because some ding dong didn't say no didn't say no and he took on the job that wasn't me by the way folks, but that's i'm just showing you one of the casualties of war, all right. So, there's that screw open up our console again here if we can - and i'm hoping there should be some clips down here according to the service data, should be able to pull her straight back. Let's see we're going to set the parking brake back down. Maybe we do need to take the center console out all the way i hate these old cars yeah. Let me clean all the junk up at center console we'll pull that out. So we can get this to come straight back better that ain't happening. Sometimes you got ta turn the camera off and just pull a little bit harder, fella uh! That's what we did. Um i'll show you here in a minute the cigar lighter.
Let's see what we have here for retaining clips in the front it didn't feel like there was any because nothing clicked looks like there's a guide. Pin there that's broke, it looks like there's a couple retaining tabs here, but no, no anything else. It was kind of bizarre that there's no no nothing. Now i did finish taking the bolts out of the back of this uh, like i said this thing's a little funny, this thing's already busted uh.
I took the screws out of it, but then you have to pull all this plastic crap off, because it's convertible or something i don't know we're just not even going to bother touching it and carry on here's the connector unhooked for the cigar lighter little wings on The side just pop it off, i think we can throw it apart, shut her down now all right, i think, we're down to the meat and potatoes of it. This is all busted all broken plastic up in here. I don't know what that goes to probably something to do with this crap yeah. I should have just told the guy.
I don't want to work in this pile, because this is what you're in, for you know a bunch of random miscellaneous busted pieces. The things all together bubble gum super glue, uh, let's see what we have to do now. I think the knee bolster here has to come off. I think was the the main objective, we'll see what holds that thing on if there's any pieces holding that on and then we'll go from there, it says we need to move rear compartment fog.
Light switch by gently prying with a screwdriver metal tab should be a metal tab on here. It's kind of stuck in the plastic there we go, that's the metal tab that holds it in that should go on here. There we go so that goes on there, we'll disconnect that and then it says, there's a screw yeah. We didn't have to take it out.
Somebody that way. Let me do snap it off. Somebody snapped it off perfect, so the plastics all busted behind here, too um all right, laura, just switch, remove knee, bolster trim, screws panel side, pull release, tabs, install reverse okay, i shouldn't be pissing the morning people i should be just thankful. I have a job, a lot of people looking for help around here.
I'll tell you what i wish. I was a teenage boy right about now, uh for a couple reasons. One of those reasons, though, is that the number of jobs that are available right now they're almost endless every single store every single place you drive by people are begging for helpers, but i think it pays way too good to stay home, so that kind of stinks. My kids, however, we do not allow them that luxury, so you're 14, you get your working papers, guess what baby you join in the workforce. I think this is the interior temperature sensor right there. I believe: that's what that is. Oh damn it i'm trying to see what holds this baby on looks like there's, a plastic clip, aha winter winter, chicken dinner all right, so that must be for the pass key. So that means kind of paid attention to how many wraps that baby had on it.
So that's that broken piece we found must be busted off from this awesome uh. We need to get the ignition lock cylinder out of there. Let me see if i can find the button, for it must be on the top. I don't see it at the bottom.
So what we'll do wow baby we're gon na get back up in this joint we're gon na take the two bolts out of this see. If we can get the switch back, we don't want to break any of this stuff off, so we got to be careful. So do that i have not unplugged the switch or anything, and i don't know is if we have enough movement under there to pull it out without first removing the lock cylinder we're gon na find out here. So take the two bolts out: rotate it a little bit there we go.
It does fit through this way here. Hopefully we can get it kind of down find out where the thunder the button is i'll. Tell you what let me find the new switch, we'll look on a new switch to see where the button is button. Button who's got the button.
Here's the connector down there. We could unplug this. Oh yeah baby. I think i see it oh yeah there.
It is so, can you guys see, probably not sugar, that's right in the way you see now, okay, so there's the ignition switch. It is in the on position. Okay now be mindful here, i'm gon na shut that off we're gon na stick this back up through, because we're not gon na put it in the way we took it out, pull that through, like that there we go we're gon na set this right to the Side till we unplug it: okay, we'll stick the key right in there, so we don't lose. The key ignition is turned on currently and now we got shift interlock down here and a bunch of connectors yeehaw.
Maybe at this point we should be smart, just turn it back off. I don't know. If i can. I can't do it with this.
Hey look at that. Maybe i can there that's turned off all the way. Okay, now we're safe, we're back into our safe zone. Get this baby back down and then we're going to start unplugging some stuff see.
If i can get you where you can see, we got our good light, aka, the one: it's not all black, so we're going to disconnect that bait. I'll! Tell you what we're going to pull the connector right here, set that right there with the ignition switch or with the lock cylinder and we're going to unhook the electrical connectors here, and it was back in the day when they had wires, big old wires. 10 gauge 12 anyways. Let's see if we can't disconnect these without breaking the tabs. Oh come on baby now, she's dinging see if we can unhook the other one, maybe get rid of the dinger. That's annoying nope that didn't stop the dinger. If we shut our door, that's annoying af, uh um. For some reason i thought they just pulled out of there.
Am i wrong? I must be about the shift interlock here. I didn't think they had to be turned on. Maybe they do. Maybe i had to turn you on as soon as i turned it on it released.
Okay, let's get the new switch through the swapparoo, here's, our new one from napper: let's have a just a gander at it here make sure it looks good. Couldn't get this thing from gm uh in any reasonable amount of time, so we elected to go after market looks like the same number of pins. Everybody looks happy all right. I don't know if this is on or off probably will not turn as easy as the the old one, not even close fella.
So what we'll do, let's just see if we can slip the, can you guys even see, see if we can slip the shift interlock in here? Oh, we can like butter. What we'll do is we want to make sure that works? Stick our key cylinder back in temporarily here: okay, so the shift interlock does work. Okay, fancy take this back out: okay, so yeah when we're taking that in and out when you have it in the on position. You got this little down right here.
You push down, but when you shut it off, you can't okay, some cars. You turn on somebody leave an accessory, so we're gon na plug these babies back in there's one there's two buckle my shoe and then our other one is gon na slip over right there, which i'm going to lay on my head to do that. That is for our lock cylinder. That's going to go on the side, okay, so we're in good shape.
So i tell you what this is for the security security. That's intake here! That's the air temp sensor we're going to put that security one back on once we have this all mounted. We we slip our lock cylinder back in there. If that makes sense to you just got to stand on our heads to do that.
Not a big deal. Now these brass buttons, so these brass nutserts they have on here, see how they protrude out of there a little bit. They go right into this aluminium housing so make sure you line that up. It should be quite obvious to you if you've made it this far, you can probably figure that out.
There's that and then like so we'll come back in with this little guy there we go. This had a couple of wool wraps on it, ah figure out which way it was we'll wrapped, we'll make sure we do a nice job, because when you turn it, the whole thing turns so we're gon na leave. It wrapped like this. I think that'll work good.
It's modern old-fashioned clock spring and then this little tab here on the lock cylinder you can see you see these little nipples that stick off there there's another one down here that this this clicks onto that was all that was holding it together when we started - and That's all it's going to hold it together when we finish providing, we don't break it off now, it's just a matter of putting all the kibbles and bits back together, folks, not too difficult at this point, you're getting stuff apart, half the battle, the other half's, putting It back together where's the inspiration for you so that clicks together there screw goes here, which we already knew about, that we've got our intake air temp sensor, which this thing did not fit very tightly. I don't see any broken tabs on it, so we're not even going to try to tweak them out to make it fit any better we're going to plug it in plug it in then. Stick it in just like that that just kind of gingerly sits there kind of stupid cars, get the wires going the right direction here i got the knee bolster re-bolstered put back on uh now at this point. We need to try to fit this baby back on. Here, what's left of it um, i don't think it'd be whiny whiny, pants anti-corvette crybaby today, but i i just i am. I guess that's what i'm doing um well we're going to tighten. I guess we better tighten that cigarette lighter back up that things feel like about ready to fall out of there. Oh sugar.
Stick our flaps turn that on so we don't have to listen to it. Oh snap, you know what we have to take. I take that screw back out. This thing is all super glue.
It's not going to stay, damn it stupid, so we've got the middle trim piece there slipped back in gon na tighten up both of these nuts. Now there's two more nuts inside of the center console. Here that i did pop out, we've got to stick our ash tray. Nope.
We've also got to stick that screw back in here you get it there. It is conveniently just knocked it on the ground for myself now we're going to get that screw. Screwed back in here and there's another screw in there that we also have to get back in. Oh, you can't see i'm up here by the ashtray folks.
So there's the extra screw no job's complete without it this one started with an extra screw. So that's good! There's that that thing closes uh, where are we gon na put the traction control thing back in it here plug that in i don't know if we should plug his passenger airbag light thing back in or not we will. I guess it's easy enough: if there's something wrong with it, we can easily re-unplug it re-unplug it yeah. I guess we would be going back to pre-unplug it because it was initially unplugged.
Uh cigar lighter slash power out. Oh, you can't see crap, i'm gon na plug this baby back in uh. I popped it out. I think this was off camera.
This had just a couple. Little tabs on the side. Uh easily came out so i'm gon na plug that in i'll give you the play by play. Like i said, i don't know how many more times you're gon na be able to open this lid without it breaking some babies. Go way back here, so get them tightened down, didn't bother getting torque specs and i'm gon na lie to you and then these little covers here and then another one right about there. Neither one of those were broke miraculously and they just kind of sit there like so bitty beep. I think that's about it. Folks, uh, let's see it, did previously have uh abs stability track check engine lots of lights on what we'll call it main concern? Was it wouldn't do that she wouldn't crank low oil level service tire, monitor system, check engine light? I think, when you put in gear you get the stability track.
Maybe we got ta move. It probably needs to see wheel, speed signal, but the stability track or that advanced traction handling uh. That light comes on. That's it, though, i'm done all right, folks, uh, that's it as far as ignition switch replacement.
Now i do know that i was a little bit we'll say uh. How do you say a word that rhymes with itchy okay during this video uh and that that's my own fault uh? So i apologize for that. I'm not trying to put all corvette owners group them all in one box and stick them in a little box, but uh a lot of you guys that work on cars work on them in the shop. You know what i mean, you know what i mean.
Am i right? Okay, we're not gon na get into that uh. It is frustrating sometimes following after somebody else's rigmarole and you know all the stuff that's broke and things are brittle and if i remember correctly, this car came from arizona when he originally got it back in 2015 or so so it's been exposed. You know to that brutal sun, and just you know the plastic. You look at it.
Cross-Eyed everything breaks uh, so we did the best job. We could to at least put it back together in the broken condition in which it was here not really cause any more damage. Thankfully um and that's that uh, why don't you guys not be itchy going down in that comment? Section questions the comments, the concerns, if you are itchy, go see a doctor and just remember viewers. If i can do it, you can do it thanks for watching.
Arm rest lifts up then push to side a little to keep it up, it is not busted. I have a C5 and love it but I dread any repairs. Even changing oil can be a problem. Car must be put on half high ramps then jacked up. Always be careful with a lift if not balanced with supports, entire car could fall off lift when doing clutch or similar
I have a 76 Corvette and the manual specifically says "Cigar Lighter" not "Cigarette Lighter." You would think being from the late 70s it would more likely have a "Coke Holder" but maybe I didn't get that RPO.
I personally think at a certain point in any vehicles life it's more important keeping the wheels turning than heads turning. Sure when it's new you want to keep it new but after 10 or 20 years functionality takes priority over fun ability. I've never had a vehicle that didn't have some minor cosmetic flaws, at the end of the day it's all it is just cosmetic. So don't be too hard on yourself Eric, you put things back together the best that anyone can. Many others wouldn't go the lengths you do to keep things pristine, people trust you and for good reason.
In all my years as a tech I only met two folks who owned a Vette that wasn't named Richard Cranium. One used to drop it off and say "call me when it's done". The other one would give me his credit card and keys and tell me to fix it and take the wife out on him and take the Vette too. I never could do that to him. Wound up being one of my best friends. God bless you Bud, I miss you my friend….
Thanks Eric for saying what I beat myself up for: I break old plastic. I just slipped and broke the vacuum inlet of the secondary air system check valve on my GM 3.8 L. Thank god for JB weld.
Hey, you should hear me when I'm doing something that has been buggered up by others before me. In particular, the first time Ive been in one. I'm not PG, M, MA, R, X, and whatever other worse ones there are.
I can see why other places send their tough problems to you. You are one of, if not the best automotive diagnosticians I have seen on YouTube. Just about anyone can repair a car or truck with some basic tools and a little knowledge if they know what to repair or replace, but it takes a real pro to figure out what is wrong and what needs to be replaced. You have an excellent understanding of automotive systems for a guy who claims not to be a car guy. Electronic control systems in modern cars seem to be the biggest obstacles to folks who call themselves auto mechanics. Keep up the great videos! (P.S. – I must say I look forward to every time you reach for the Brakleen!) ๐
that is a HORRIBLE design.. Horrible.. HORRIBLE design. wtf.. i can already see the design engineer and the mechanical engineers arguing with the designing firm and the management team just overruling the actual engineers and going with the cheap ass plastic.
I have a blown center channel speaker in my car and I brought it in for warranty work. I got called back in an hour and they said 2 people couldn't hear anything wrong with the speaker. I flipped out at them and said how don't you hear it? So of course I lost the battle and picked my car back up and as soon as I turned it on fart noises through the speaker. I hate hate hate hate dealerships and lazy mechanics, also hate nothing more then being lied too. Oh and they said they would do my front brakes for 1,100 though!!!